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I'm pleased to announce that a new, more detailed version of this article will appear in the Australian 2007 Wellbeing Astrology Guide - available in September 2006.  Also look for my article, "Connections…Using astrological threads to create deeper intimacy and understanding in our relationships" in the same issue


So, you've met before...and not only that, but you have been lovers at least once in the past, if not many times over.  Your relationship with one another stretches back in time and has shaped and molded you into the person you are today.

When your eyes met for the first time, you knew he or she was 'it'...that this person before you is your lover.  But wait, the lightning can and does strike even without seeing each other!  In the Age of Aquarius, karmic lovers are meeting on the web without even the benefit of a picture at first!  Yet, the lightning strike is so powerful, so consuming, so intense, you fall and you fall hard.  At first you are floating on air, skyhigh in your romantic bliss...it is a wonderful feeling, is it not?  Everything is simply perfect.  New vistas of the divine open before you and you suddenly know that you have never known love before you met this person.
Then reality strikes.  One or both of you are married.  You live thousands of miles apart.  There are children, or perhaps an illness, involved.  No matter what the complications, and there are bound to be plenty, you know that somehow you and your newfound (yet old) lover must be.  You feel it in your very soul.  It is a deep and painful longing, a longing no one else in the world can understand unless they, too, have met a karmic lover with a Saturn-Neptune connection.

Does it read like a tragedy waiting to happen?  Romeo and Juliet?  Tristan and Isolde?  Guinevere and Lancelot?  Chances are, all of these couples, if we could erect a synastry chart for them, would have a Saturn and Neptune connection...and if not, then they would in the next life in which they meet.  Even more likely, the Saturn-Neptune connection would also touch the Sun, Moon, Venus, or Mars in both of the partner's individual charts.

If you are working a synastry chart and you find this connection, look for the deeper ties to the personal planets.  By noting and examining the ties to the personal planets, you can can obtain some idea of how the current relationship is manifesting for each individual and how they can approach the healing that needs to take place in the current life.  The lovers meet again to clear negative karma and to rekindle their love, however briefly the actual relationship lasts.  I should mention here that even if the relationship ends quickly, the two lovers will often continue to long for each other no matter who they are with or how far apart they are.

Next, look at the house placements of Saturn and Neptune...this will give some clue as to which area of life brought tragedy in the past, for this aspect is a marker of tragedy...why were these two souls ripped apart so abruptly?  In many cases, one of the partners died a dramatic, sudden death, especially if the 8th house is directly involved.  Often their very love for each other was their undoing, and the step towards destruction. 

So how does this manifest for the two people currently entangled in such a relationship?  So much depends on other factors in their charts and their current circumstances.  If they are married to someone else, should they divorce?  If they live far apart, should they relocate?  These are tough decisions and it could take years of dedication to one another to make happen.  Often, one partner is terrified of the other after the initial honeymoon (Neptune) phase.  When reality (Saturn) hits this partner, his or her emotions may become unbearable and he/she must close down emotionally out of self-protection.  The partner cannot see immediate results emerging out of the connection, and he or she may even sever the ties (at least try to!).  Which partner lost whom in the last life together?  The person willing to break the connection is often the partner who was left behind, who lost his or her only love.  This person may have been punished, forced to marry another, or may have taken an oath to never, ever, ever love again.  A deep, entrenched wound is hindering the growth of this soul.  While this soul is hiding and running away from his or her karmic lover, there can be no healing...and the scorned lover is hurt, desolate, and may even give up on living if he or she is not very spiritual.  How can something so wonderful, so beautiful and divine come to such an abrupt halt?  Why doesn't he (or she) call?  Why the disappearing act?

Karmic astrology can help karmic lovers understand the push-pull effect of their karmic relationships.  It may not end the pain, it may not sweep away the hollow emptiness left when one karmic lover suddenly deserts the other, but it can help transform the bitterness left bobbing in the wake of abandonment into something much more bittersweet...spiritual understanding and acceptance.

Primary Saturn-Neptune contacts to look for:

The opposition is the most prominent.  Of course a person could have this contact with many people of about the same age, that is why it is necessary to note the houses and the inner planet contacts.  Saturn or Neptune is usually in a 'karmic' house: 1st, 4th, 8th, 10th, 12th (these are the houses I personally use; other astrologers may consider other houses as karmic).  Occasionally it may be found that the Sun, Moon, Venus, or Mars is in the karmic house in a close configuration with the Saturn/Neptune connection.  Use an orb under 3 degrees for the peripheral karmic house contact if neither Saturn or Neptune is in one of the above houses.  The contact to the inner planets can be major or 'minor' hard contacts, including the conjunction, square, semisquare, and sesiquadrate.  The sextile and semisextile also occurs upon occasion.

The square between Saturn-Neptune in the synastry chart can indicate a karmic lover relationship, but the lovers have not usually lost one another through their love...in other words, their relationship didn't cause or contribute to the death of one or both partners as can be the case with the Saturn-Neptune opposition in a karmic house touching a planet or light in both individual nativities.  The square more often indicates that there were difficult circumstances in the past that the two individuals failed to handle appropriately and they will once again face a similar situation together.  Their incompetence may have cost lives. This configuration can appear when both partners need to work toward a goal that will benefit mankind.

You may also be interested in my article on Saturn in Relationship